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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 03:30 am |
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Neosutra wrote: onisama wrote: Well I am getting a mythic wep 100% problem is im undecided on which one I am getting. Luckily I dont need to decide on a specific weapon since all the weapons have the same requirements. For now I have just over 1300 Alexandrite finished captain, 2/3 ToAU (Duh?!) and working on nyzule isle points/floors. Einherjar points im about 30-40k since I used some points for synthing my blm items.
PS: its crap that I cant restart my assault until I have a nyzule isle floor 100 key item.
Youll need to pick/turn in a weapon before you can even begin the quest.
ah Fuck!
Well I guess I will have to choose and fast :/
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 03:48 am |
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| Go for blu. But save all your alex and give to neo!
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 09:27 pm |
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Blu has the potential of being the best (yes better than the sick pld) IF and ONLY if the conversion works for melee spells like vertical cleave. if it only works with WS then it sucks donkey balls since the WS itself sucks and blu/thf never WS's all tp goes for Chain affinity SA.
Now if it works for spells then my blu did 2-2.6k CASA vertical cleave on gods so with that kind of dmg you will get all your mp back lol.
EDIT: still its a nice sword so its a definate contender. As of right now im between RNG BLU NIN weapons. DRG is nice but since im getting the Relic version eventually no point in getting mythic too.
Last edited on Fri Oct 24th, 2008 09:29 pm by onisama
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 09:45 pm |
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onisama wrote: Blu has the potential of being the best (yes better than the sick pld) IF and ONLY if the conversion works for melee spells like vertical cleave. if it only works with WS then it sucks donkey balls since the WS itself sucks and blu/thf never WS's all tp goes for Chain affinity SA.
Now if it works for spells then my blu did 2-2.6k CASA vertical cleave on gods so with that kind of dmg you will get all your mp back lol.
EDIT: still its a nice sword so its a definate contender. As of right now im between RNG BLU NIN weapons. DRG is nice but since im getting the Relic version eventually no point in getting mythic too.
Most likely the the occasionally turns damage dealt to MP is only damage created by the sword swings itself. Going off other proc rates, you can be safe to assume a 2.5-5% proc rate of converting the damage of that swing to mp. Still a cool sword and awesome for blue.
As for the others, do not even think about the nin or rng ones Q.Q.
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Miraun
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 10:45 pm |
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| RNG Relics are much better than mythics due to the hate reduction modifiers
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:24 am |
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bow relic owns but i cant do both drg and rng relic, as for doing rng relic and drg mythic unless double attack at 100tp is huge its not for me. Althought dmg100 acc+20 def down using drakesbane thats something that interests me.
As for doing blu mythic i might do it up to now its either that or get pld one and lvl pld :P
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:55 am |
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| If you decide to do pld then just fund my burtgang!
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 06:33 am |
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Neosutra wrote: If you decide to do pld then just fund my burtgang!
well if I fund your Burtgang will you fund my relic bow?
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 04:21 pm |
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 07:09 pm |
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Neosutra wrote: Im sure we could work something out :P
Woot let the negotiations commence !
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 01:52 pm |
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From BG:
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A guy at the Japan Fanfest tested the WAR's Mythic G.axe.
He reported:
-Aftermath gave +50 attack
-Aftermath lasts 30-60 sec depending on TP
-Normal crits do ~200 but crits during Aftermath do 900-1000
-Triple Attack that seemed to proc the same amount as sea weapons (he isn't sure if the Triple Attack was from Aftermath or from Berserk)
Picture of the mob he was testing on in line 434 (porn links if you click on the link on line 434 - NSFW).
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 02:01 pm |
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| The plot thickens..
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 03:34 pm |
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Miraun wrote: From BG:
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http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1227386072/
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A guy at the Japan Fanfest tested the WAR's Mythic G.axe.
He reported:
-Aftermath gave +50 attack
-Aftermath lasts 30-60 sec depending on TP
-Normal crits do ~200 but crits during Aftermath do 900-1000
-Triple Attack that seemed to proc the same amount as sea weapons (he isn't sure if the Triple Attack was from Aftermath or from Berserk)
Picture of the mob he was testing on in line 434 (porn links if you click on the link on line 434 - NSFW).
This all sounds too good to be true, so forgive me if I am skeptical.
Now the "Triple Attack that seemed to proc the same amount as sea weapons (he isn't sure if the Triple Attack was from Aftermath or from Berserk)" Triple attack?!? From Zerk?!? Either I am retarded and warrior's gets triple attack from somewhere or this whole statement is wrong.
As for the crits wow just wow! Then again if relics can occasionally do 3-2.5x dmg then its only right if mythics do crazy crits.
Great find Miraun keep up the great work!
EDIT: Aftermarth 30-60 seconds, I am asuming 30 is at 100 tp then that equals to aftermath being active 24/7 for DDs.
Last edited on Tue Nov 25th, 2008 03:36 pm by onisama
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 04:20 pm |
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Having it up 24/7 still requires haste, if it's 30 seconds at 100% TP.
Begin Math:
492 delay. Menas 8.2 RL seconds between swings (delay/60)
Assumed a 6 hit setup.
8.2*5= 41 second for 5 hits. Assumed instant WS, so not counting the first hit.
Delay TP gain equations are based off of a melee obtaining 100% TP at approximately 1 minute at 100% ACC. 492 delay is a natural gain of 13.4%, which means 7.5 hits to obtain 100%, ie: 8 hits, 65.6 seconds. If we could use the fraction, it would be ~61 seconds.
Of course, yeah, just as you said, you'll have it on 24/7 EASILLY. With a 6 hit build, it's only 41 seconds BASE, before haste gear, then you also get the double attack procs. If it's a 25% proc rate, you're set. Even if it's 15%, you're probably wearing 5-10% of DA gear anyway, so it would be enough to get in that 1 extra hit you need.
We're looking at the completion of the first mythic around March from a JP that only need ampoules left for the BRD weapon. We still have quite a while for speculation. But this post just made me smile and happier that I chose to upgrade the Ryunohige rather than Gungiir. I'm really interested to see how the two do against each other
/stare Oni
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 04:43 pm |
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The weapon didnt triple attack, it was suggested that the "occassionally attacks twice" is the same as jailer weapons, in that it could proc on a hit that is already a DA (i.e. the war's DA trait kicked in, then the weapon added another hit).
That being said, the weapons tested at fanfest are not complete and may not be a representation of the final product. We will see.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 05:28 pm |
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Yeah I cant wait to take a ls meripo party at birds with Ryunohige and Gungnir! Problem is we will need to do Wivre's to keep chain up :P
EDIT: I really hope that those numbers are real since SE did say that Mythic weapons are supposed to enchance the job but not surpass the relic dmg wise.
Still I am very curious as to what other secrets these babies will hold! I cant wait to one day finish my relic and mythic.
Last edited on Tue Nov 25th, 2008 05:31 pm by onisama
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Posted: Sun Dec 14th, 2008 07:59 pm |
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"Q: Were the Mythic weapons meant to rival the original relic weapons?
A: The concept of Mythic is completely different from the original relic weapons. The originals are designed for big damage and specific weapon skills, whereas the new Mythic were designed for specific jobs, with more focus on the usage of TP as opposed to big damage. Naturally, there is a difference in the damage output, but that is because the weapons are designed differently."
from http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/ffxi-advanced-player-discussion/67302-onrpg-com-fanfest-dev-interview.html
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